Let’s say you are in a constituency where the sitting MP has a humongous majority. Maybe a majority that is far, far bigger than all the votes for all of the other candidates combined. Like (say) Tottenham.
You have to ask yourself: What is the point in voting?
If you vote for the sitting MP your extra vote when added to the mountain they already have will make no difference. If you vote for any of the other candidates, you stand no chance whatsoever of changing the MP.
Even in a marginal seat a General Election constituency contest has only once been decided by a majority of one and that was back in 1910. As for a draw that has also only ever happened once, back in 1886.
The net result is is that on a personal level the physical and financial gain from participating in a vote, especially in a safe seat, is nil.
On this we have to hang the question: On an individual basis, what IS the point of voting?
The inescapable answer is that on a purely individualistic and selfish basis there is no point whatsoever.
But voting is not about the individual. Voting is above all else an altruistic act. It is selfless. It has no tangible reward. It results in a group decision where the wisdom of crowds prevails.
(which leads me into a book recommendation – a must read – "The Wisdom of Crowds" by James Surowiecki)
Even so, walking half a mile on a cold and rainy day to vote in an election where the outcome in your constituency is a forgone conclusion does test that altruism somewhat.
There is though a singular advantage in voting in a safe seat constituency. Especially if you are a little disillusioned with either the sitting MP or the main ( but distant) contenders.
You can safely experiment.
You can vote for someone else. You can vote for somebody or some party that takes your fancy. They don’t even have to have a fully formed policy base.
If it tickled you fancy you could vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party without consequence.
But rather than the Monster Raving Loony Party (who I am sure have a set of policies almost as good as any of the main partys anyway), why not use your vote to support a smaller party?
Why not vote for a party that is possibly struggling to get some notice?
Or maybe you would like to lend your support to a party that will achieve considerable electoral support across the country, but will, thanks to the inequities of out voting system gain no seats.
In either of these cases your vote does have some tangible effect.
For a small party like (say) the SDP it can provide vital visibility. With enough votes, even though they stand no hope of winning the seat, they’ll gain vital exposure. It may well stop them being quite so ignored by the media. Maybe they’ll start cropping up on the MSM Radar more often. This could give them vital publicity to fight future more winnable elections either locally or nationally.
For a larger party like (say) the Brexit Party a vote for them in an unwinnable seat is a vote of support. A vote that will be tallied up nationally. It will show with the millions of others across the country the inequities and plain damn unfairness of our electoral system.
So, as long as you regard altruism as a virtuous ideal, a vote in a safe seat is not a wasted vote.
You can, if you like, add it to the mountain for the current MP. Or vote for one of the traditional partys.
Or you can be adventurous.
Even a vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party is better than no vote at all!
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The SDP: 2019 Thirsk and Malton
Time for another amateur analysis of one of the seats being contested by the SDP in the forthcoming General Election. Here is a look at a Conservative safe seat that is being contested by a brave SDP candidate by the name of Michael Taylor.
Thirsk & Malton is a Tory stronghold in North Yorkshire. In the last election they took 60% of the vote. In the EU referendum the constituency voted 56% to leave the EU. This constituency will not change hands in December 2019.
Interestingly Mike Taylor (SDP) is the only candidate that has supported Brexit from the outset. The sitting MP (Kevin Hollinrake) was (in 2016) a supporter of Remain. Today it looks like Kevin Hollinrake is really a somewhat reluctant Brexiteer.
I would suggest Kevin Hollinrake supports Johnson out of party loyalty rather than due to any “road to Damascus” conversion. In fact he voiced opposition to Johnsons “do or die” ideal of leaving the EU on October 31st.
I would suggest that the sitting MP is in all intents and purposes still a Remainer at heart. I would suspect that although he may tow the party line after the election, he will potentially be a thorn in the side of those negotiating the future Trading relationship with the EU.
There is no UKIP or Brexit Party Candidate. The rump 2017 UKIP vote (1500 voters) has to be looking for a home. They did not go to the Conservatives or Labour in 2017 so where else is there for them to go in 2019 other than to a true Brexit supporting party like the SDP?
In 2015 the UKIP vote was almost as big as Labour's. In 2015 UKIP took just under 8000 votes. It looks like between 2015 and 2017 the UKIP vote shed 2000 voters to Labour and 4500 to the Conservatives.
So there should be a considerable number of discontented Leave voting Labour supporters who have given up on Corbyn’s debacle of a Brexit policy. They may well be looking for a new home, especially for one with strong traditional Labour roots.
It could well be that these leave voters just won’t vote Tory ever. Especially for one who was a Remainer. So this may well be fertile territory.
As for the disgruntled leavers in that mountain of Conservative voters, there is the opportunity to tweak the sitting MPs tail by voting for the SDP. There is no chance of letting in Labour (or anyone else) by the back door. A protest vote to support a real Brexiteer may well just make their day.
So lets say the whole of the ex-UKIP vote and perhaps another 2000 voters apiece from both the Conservative and Labour partys are volatile. They will consider voting for a true Brexiteer in the election. That is 12,000 volatile voters.
Resources are of course limited. But with a bit of luck and fortuitous canvassing then maybe 1000 can be pulled into the SDP camp which would be brilliant. But a vote in the few hundreds would still be a publicity victory.
So here are my crap ideas on what to promote to entice voters to vote SDP.
They are probably rubbish but maybe one or two will hit the spot.
Thirsk & Malton is a Tory stronghold in North Yorkshire. In the last election they took 60% of the vote. In the EU referendum the constituency voted 56% to leave the EU. This constituency will not change hands in December 2019.
Interestingly Mike Taylor (SDP) is the only candidate that has supported Brexit from the outset. The sitting MP (Kevin Hollinrake) was (in 2016) a supporter of Remain. Today it looks like Kevin Hollinrake is really a somewhat reluctant Brexiteer.
I would suggest Kevin Hollinrake supports Johnson out of party loyalty rather than due to any “road to Damascus” conversion. In fact he voiced opposition to Johnsons “do or die” ideal of leaving the EU on October 31st.
I would suggest that the sitting MP is in all intents and purposes still a Remainer at heart. I would suspect that although he may tow the party line after the election, he will potentially be a thorn in the side of those negotiating the future Trading relationship with the EU.
There is no UKIP or Brexit Party Candidate. The rump 2017 UKIP vote (1500 voters) has to be looking for a home. They did not go to the Conservatives or Labour in 2017 so where else is there for them to go in 2019 other than to a true Brexit supporting party like the SDP?
In 2015 the UKIP vote was almost as big as Labour's. In 2015 UKIP took just under 8000 votes. It looks like between 2015 and 2017 the UKIP vote shed 2000 voters to Labour and 4500 to the Conservatives.
So there should be a considerable number of discontented Leave voting Labour supporters who have given up on Corbyn’s debacle of a Brexit policy. They may well be looking for a new home, especially for one with strong traditional Labour roots.
It could well be that these leave voters just won’t vote Tory ever. Especially for one who was a Remainer. So this may well be fertile territory.
As for the disgruntled leavers in that mountain of Conservative voters, there is the opportunity to tweak the sitting MPs tail by voting for the SDP. There is no chance of letting in Labour (or anyone else) by the back door. A protest vote to support a real Brexiteer may well just make their day.
So lets say the whole of the ex-UKIP vote and perhaps another 2000 voters apiece from both the Conservative and Labour partys are volatile. They will consider voting for a true Brexiteer in the election. That is 12,000 volatile voters.
Resources are of course limited. But with a bit of luck and fortuitous canvassing then maybe 1000 can be pulled into the SDP camp which would be brilliant. But a vote in the few hundreds would still be a publicity victory.
So here are my crap ideas on what to promote to entice voters to vote SDP.
They are probably rubbish but maybe one or two will hit the spot.
- It is a armour plated safe Tory seat. Emphasise to the electorate that there is no chance for another party to win in this seat other than the Tories. Whatever you vote and whether you like it or not, the MP is secure.
- Your vote still matters. It will not change the MP but it will potentially set the trend for the future. It allows you to register support for leaving the EU without voting Tory. It will make the Tory MP just that little bit less complacent.
- Big up the democracy aspect. Why not show support for an honest but small party? Your vote will not change the MP! Neither will it imperil Brexit. But it may have a big effect on the way others view the issues you are concerned with.
- Attack Labour on their hideous record on bigotry and antisemitism. The MP cannot be changed by voting Labour. So wouldn’t it be worthwhile registering your disapproval of this antisemitic ugliness by voting SDP and depriving Labour of your vote?
- You won’t change the MP whatever you vote but you can register your displeasure with the Metropolitan elite especially the anti-democrats that want to cancel Brexit and work against it.
- Do you think Corbyn is “safe”? When they total up the votes at the end, which pile will yours be in? Pro Corbyn? Pro Remainer Tory? Or pro democracy?
- We (quite rightly) have laws to protect 16 year olds from sexual and financial predators. Do you think giving votes to 16 year olds and opening them up to political predators is a good idea? The Labour party supports votes for 16 year olds! Will you vote for that? Or vote SDP so showing your disapproval of hard-line "woke" Labour policy
- You do know the sitting Tory MP supported remain in 2016 don’t you? He won’t be replaced in this election but you can keep him inline by voting for the only candidate that supported Brexit from the outset. The SDP candidate.
- Do you think UK politics is broken? It cannot be fixed overnight by voting SDP. But it is a start. And it uses you vote for good effect when otherwise it will be ignored.
The SDP: 2019 Tottenham
You just have to
admire people who are willing to put themselves through hell to stand in no-hope seats. Of those seats Tottenham is potentially
the most difficult.
The SDP candidate in this case is Andrew Bence. So whatever party you support Andrew Bence deserves our most wholehearted respect.
If you wanted to
define a safe seat, then Tottenham has to be a primary contender. The
sitting MP (David Lammy) took 80% of the votes in 2017 on a 68%
turnout. Or to put it another way David Lammy got well over 4 times
the votes than of all the other candidates combined.
In the 2016 EU
referendum 76% of the Tottenham vote in the referendum was for
Remain.
So Tottenham is both
a Labour and a Remainer Citadel.
Nobody is going to
be elected here except for David Lammy. The only candidate in the
election other than David Lammy who is even likely to save their deposit
is the Conservative candidate. The Conservatives in 2017 came a distant second with
11% of the vote.
This is by
definition going to be a difficult seat for anyone other than Labour
to get votes in.
Even so, the Leave
vote in the 2016 EU referendum was about 18,000. Due to the virtual
non-existence of UKIP around 13,000 of those 18,000 voters must have
voted for Lammy in the 2017 General Election.
The Brexit Party is
also fielding a candidate. So unfortunately any of those 13000 Labour leave voters
disgruntled enough to look for another party is going to have three
to choose from.
Perhaps it would be
best for the SDP candidate to emphasise the Social Democratic nature
of the SDP and it’s Labour origins. Then distance themselves from
both the Conservatives and the Brexit Party. Present the SDP as the
socially responsible party for leavers to vote for.
Lammy is a senior
politician and as such is perhaps (as most senior politicians are)
somewhat of an occasional visitor to his patch. If there are any
local issues that have been left to fester, then cultivating a
protest vote about these ignored issues might get some mileage. Local
social issues, especially those that might be also ignored by the
Conservative candidate due to party policy would be well worth
exploring.
I have looked at how
other minor partys have fared in the past in this seat. I think a
result in the low hundreds will be a good result. Anything over 400
will be a milestone. A 1000 would be groundbreaking.
So what would be the
best way of promoting the SDP in this seat? Here’s seven
suggestions.
They may range from
worthwhile to totally irrelevant in this seat. I don’t know. They
are just suggestions.
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Tottenham is an armour plated safe Labour seat. Emphasise to the electorate that there is no chance for another party to win in this seat other than Labour. So if they feel disgruntled with current Labour policy or the MP they can safely register a protest vote.
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Your SDP vote will not change the MP but it will potentially set the trend for the future. It allows you to register support for leaving the EU without voting Tory. It will make the current MP just that little bit less complacent.
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Big up the democracy aspect. Why not show support for an honest but small party? Your vote will not change the MP! But it may have a big effect on the way others view the issues you are concerned with.
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Do you want to use your vote to support a party now strongly associated with anti-Semitism like the Labour Party? As you won’t change the MP wouldn’t it be worthwhile registering your disapproval of this ugliness by voting SDP? It might help to make them sit up and take notice.
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You won’t change the MP whatever you vote but you can register your displeasure with the Metropolitan elite especially the anti-democrats that want to cancel Brexit.
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The Torys can never hope to achieve anything here. The Brexit party is unlikely to survive another two years. Wouldn’t it be worthwhile building up a viable alternative voice to Labour in Tottenham? Even if its just to keep the Labour MP on his toes and reduce the endemic complacency that comes with a safe seat.
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Do you think UK politics is broken? It cannot be fixed overnight by voting SDP. But it is a start. And it uses you vote for good effect when otherwise it will be ignored.
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Local issues. Bring up local issues. Especially those that have been allowed to run out of control without much/any input from the sitting MP.
The SDP: 2019 Havant
The SDP are standing
a candidate in the Havant Constituency in Hampshire in the 2019 General Election.
Here's my take on what they might achieve, where the potential SDP voters will come from and how many of them there are. Of course, this is just my opinion but I think it adds up.
In my humble opinion this is one of the best prospects for a decent vote share for the SDP in all of the 20 seats being contested by them.
Here's my take on what they might achieve, where the potential SDP voters will come from and how many of them there are. Of course, this is just my opinion but I think it adds up.
In my humble opinion this is one of the best prospects for a decent vote share for the SDP in all of the 20 seats being contested by them.
Havant is an
impregnable Tory seat and always has been. In the last election the
sitting Tory MP (Alan Mak) garnered almost 60% of the vote. His
majority alone was bigger than the vote share achieved by the Labour Party. This seat will not change
hands.
There is no UKIP and (more importantly) no Brexit party candidate. The SDP candidate is in
fact the sole Brexiteer. Alan Mak campaigned in 2016 to remain. This
should be a strong lever to prize off disgruntled Brexiteers from the
mountainous Tory vote.
Alan
Maks majority amounts to a full 34% of the votes cast. So all
voters should realise that Alan Mak will not be replaced whatever
they vote. Voters can safely express their displeasure at his
remainerism.
Voters can diminish Mak's vote share by voting for the only candidate that supported Brexit from the start - the SDP candidate. They can do this without fear of letting in the Labour Party by the back door.
Voters can diminish Mak's vote share by voting for the only candidate that supported Brexit from the start - the SDP candidate. They can do this without fear of letting in the Labour Party by the back door.
The SDP candidate in
this election is Alan Black.
Here is the
candidate list and 2017 general Election result
In 2015 UKIP gained
a considerable vote share with 9000 votes. When they collapsed in 2017 about about 4000 of their votes went to the Tories and about 3000 went to Labour. There remained a rump of about 2000 UKIP votes in 2017.
Interestingly there
was an independent candidate in 2017. She gained nearly a 1000 votes.
It appears her campaign centred around over-development in the area
which could be another good lever to gain votes. (more research
required)
Explaining to voters
that this seat will not change hands is crucial.
There is a rump of
2000 UKIP votes with nowhere to go other than the SDP.
There is the
3000 that migrated to the Labour party that must also be desperately
looking for somewhere to go.
The 4000 UKIP votes that went to the
Tories will also feel queasy if they are enlightened to the fact that
Alan Mak actually campaigned for Remain in 2016 even though he had
previously described himself as a Euro-Sceptic.
For these Tory
voters, finding a real Brexiteer (SDP) candidate while being shown
that Alan Maks majority is so huge that there is no possibility of
inadvertantly letting in a Labour or LibDem will be an eye-opener.
Besides the
ex-ukippers, the Labour vote is up for squeezing anyway. They have in
essence abandoned their leave supporting Labour voters. Add to that
the nastiness about anti-semitism and I reckon theres about 2-3000
Labour votes other than the 3000 ex-ukippers up for grabs.
Add in the 1000
votes that went to the lady independent and there is a lot to play
for here.
I reckon that in
total there is possibly up to 12000 volatile votes that are maybe
looking for a new home. Most of those will be abandoned or mislead
leave voters who would like to punish either the Tories or Labour.
The Tory voters will
all will fear a Labour government. Reassuring them that voting SDP
cannot let in the Labour candidate by the back door is paramount.
The reverse is true
for the Labour voters.
Telling them the
truth that whatever they vote they will not change the MP will mean
they can register their disapproval with Corbyn and his (less than)
merry men.
So what would be
the best way of promoting the SDP in this seat? Here’s my ten
arguments.
They may be rubbish
but they may just get you to generate better ones!
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It is a armour plated safe Tory seat. Emphasise to the electorate that there is no chance for another party to win in this seat other than the Tories. So by voting for party other than the Tories you will not be damaging Brexit. Whatever you vote and whether you like it or not, the MP is secure.
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Your vote matters. It will not change the MP but it will potentially set the trend for the future. It allows you to register support for leaving the EU without voting Tory. It will make the Tory MP just that little bit less complacent.
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Does the MP pay enough attention to local issues (like over-development?) register your disapproval of local over-development by voting SDP, a party that puts local people first and greedy developers at the back.
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Big up the democracy aspect. Why not show support for an honest but small party? Your vote will not change the MP! Neither will it imperil Brexit. But it may have a big effect on the way others view the issues you are concerned with.
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Do you want to use your vote to support a party now strongly associated with anti-Semitism like the Labour Party? As you won’t change the MP wouldn’t it be worthwhile registering your disapproval of this ugliness by voting SDP and depriving Labour of your vote?
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You won’t change the MP whatever you vote but you can register your displeasure with the Metropolitan elite especially the anti-democrats that want to cancel Brexit. Vote SDP!
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Do you think Corbyn is “safe”? When they total up the votes at the end, which pile will yours be in? Pro Corbyn? Pro Tory? Or pro democracy?
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We (quite rightly) have laws to protect 16 year olds from sexual and financial predators. Do you think giving votes to 16 year olds and opening them up to political predators is a good idea? The Labour party supports votes for 16 year olds! Will you vote for that? Or vote SDP so showing your disapproval of hard-line Labour policy
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You do know the sitting Tory MP campaigned to remain in 2016 don’t you? He won’t be replaced in this election but you can keep him inline by voting for the only candidate that supported Brexit from the outset. The SDP candidate.
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Do you think UK politics is broken? It cannot be fixed overnight by voting SDP. But it is a start. And it uses you vote for good effect when otherwise it will be ignored.
The SDP: 2019 Epping Forest
In a strange nerdish way these vote analysis posts for SDP contested seats are good fun.
But be warned: My interpretation of what votes can be stolen from where by the small SDP party may be a load of baloney.
Trusting my analysis would be a bit like trusting another passenger to land a 747 because he read one of the manuals a couple of years ago.
But it at least keeps me out of the pub for a few hours.
Anyway here's the next one - for Epping Forest.
To call this a safe Tory seat would be the understatement of the century. 62% of the electorate voted for them in 2017.
But be warned: My interpretation of what votes can be stolen from where by the small SDP party may be a load of baloney.
Trusting my analysis would be a bit like trusting another passenger to land a 747 because he read one of the manuals a couple of years ago.
But it at least keeps me out of the pub for a few hours.
Anyway here's the next one - for Epping Forest.
To call this a safe Tory seat would be the understatement of the century. 62% of the electorate voted for them in 2017.
Just remember 2017
was a badly run and poorly fought election by the Torys! They still got 62%.
Labour are a distant
second and the Libdems garner a couple of thousand votes.
No UKIP candidate and more
importantly no Brexit Party candidate are standing in this election. So the SDP
candidate is the only other Brexit supporting candidate other than
the sitting MP.
The SDP candidate is
Jon Newham.
Here’s the
candidate list and the last election result.
There are a couple
of interesting things with this constituency.
First off if you
look at the 2015 General Election result (below) you will find that the UKIP
vote was considerable. It stood at 9000 votes. They made a large dent
in both the Labour and Tory vote and pushed Labour into third place.
Even so the Tory majority in 2015 was still much the same as in 2017.
In 2017 it looks
like the Labour party robbed the LibDems and the Greens. They also
possibly took around a third of the UKIP vote. I’d suggest that this third (or about 3000 voters) will be desperately looking for a new home. With all
the shenanegins with anti-semitism and general Corbynista nastiness
maybe there would be more.
It is worth noting
that the Labour candidate is a keen supporter (actually a driver of
Labour policy in this area) for votes at 16, which in my humble
opinion is very unpopular with most people over the age of 30. I would think that this would be a strong lever in prying away older voters from the Labour Party.
The mountain of the
Tory vote may get tweaked for those ex-UKIP voters. They may be keen
leavers but are possibly reluctant Tories. They don't have Brexit Party to migrate to. But they will still need
persuasion that moving their vote to the SDP they will not change the
MP or damage Brexit. Possibly 4000 volatile voters here?
So in total about
(maybe) 7000 votes up for grabs by the SDP. That is of course, IF
those 7000 can be identified and persuaded. I reckon a 1000 votes at the end of the day would be a fantastic result.
So what would be the
best way of promoting the SDP in this seat? Here’s my eight
arguments.
They may be rubbish
but they may just get you to generate better ones!
(And YES! they DO change slightly post to post. Honest!)
(And YES! they DO change slightly post to post. Honest!)
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It is a armour plated safe Tory seat. Emphasise to the electorate that there is no chance for another party to win in this seat other than the Tories. So by voting for the SDP you will not be damaging Brexit. Whatever you vote and whether you like it or not, the MP is secure.
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Your vote matters. It will not change the MP but it will potentially set the trend for the future. It allows allows you to register support for leaving the EU without voting Tory. It will make the Tory MP just that little bit less complacent.
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Big up the democracy aspect. Why not show support for an honest but small party? Your vote will not change the MP! Neither will it imperil Brexit. But it may have a big effect on the way others view the issues you are concerned with.
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Do you want to use your vote to support a party now strongly associated with anti-Semitism like the Labour Party? As you won’t change the MP wouldn’t it be worthwhile registering your disapproval of this ugliness by voting SDP and depriving Labour of your vote?
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You won’t change the MP whatever you vote but you can register your displeasure with the Metropolitan elite especially the anti-democrats that want to cancel Brexit. Vote SDP!
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Do you think Corbyn is “safe”? When they total up the votes at the end, which pile will yours be in? Pro Corbyn? Pro Tory? Or pro democracy?
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We (quite rightly) have laws to protect 16 year olds from sexual and financial predators. Do you think giving votes to 16 year olds and opening them up to political predators is a good idea? The Labour party candidate does! He thinks giving votes to 16 year olds is a great idea! Will you vote for that? Or vote SDP so showing your dissaproval?
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Do you think UK politics is broken? It cannot be fixed overnight by voting SDP. But it is a start. And it uses you vote for good effect when otherwise it will be ignored.
- The SDP candidate supports Brexit. None of the other candidates other than the MP do. So if you want to register support for Brexit you have a straight choice Tory or SDP. Neither choice will change the final election result. But a vote for SDP will help focus the Tories on Brexit.
The SDP: 2019 Cambridge
For reasons unknown even to me, I decided to have a look at the 20 seats being contested by the SDP in this coming General Election. (Maybe I should get out more).
This is the second post in the series.
Caveat Emptor:
My experience in analysing voting trends can be summed up in two words. "Bugger all".
So what you see is what you get. It may right. It may be wrong. Or anywhere in the middle. You decide. But I hope it is at least somewhat entertaining.
Cambridge is Remainer Heaven. At least 80% of the last general election vote went to partys that now support Remain.
This is the second post in the series.
Caveat Emptor:
My experience in analysing voting trends can be summed up in two words. "Bugger all".
So what you see is what you get. It may right. It may be wrong. Or anywhere in the middle. You decide. But I hope it is at least somewhat entertaining.
Cambridge is Remainer Heaven. At least 80% of the last general election vote went to partys that now support Remain.
The only potential fly in the ointment for them is that there will (possibly) be a reluctance from a small proportion of the Labour voters to vote for a hard core Remain MP who is also in favour of scrapping Trident.
The SDP candidate is Jane Robins.
The SDP candidate is Jane Robins.
This will be a very hard seat to do well in. So good luck to Jane.
The immediate pain here is that the Brexit Party is standing as well as the SDP. They will potentially hoover up most discontented ex-UKIP voters who didn't even have a candidate in 2017.
This is an ultra strong remain seat. The turnout rose by almost 10% between 2015 and 2017 probably due to students voting. Almost all of that 10% appears to have gone to Labour. It is an unequal fight between Labour and LibDems who between them hold 80% of the turnout.
One light on the horizon is that the 2015 UKIP candidate was the redoubtable Patrick O’Flynn who may have some local street cred and would be well worth parading about on the streets. (;-)
In the 2016 EU Referendum 26% voted to leave. Yet only 16% voted Tory in 2017. Which suggests Labour and the Lib Dems are hiding about 5000 leave voters between them.
Nationally, thirty per cent of LibDem voters voted Leave in 2016. As we are dealing with voters not party apparachtiks maybe there’s some room there with maybe up to (say) 2000 potential voters?
However this may be wishful thinking. Leaver LibDems may have already migrated to the Labour Party in 2017.
Maybe targeting Labour would be the most fruitful. Labour leavers must be feeling very uncomfortable about how the party has done a volte face on Brexit and may consider abandoning them. But going to the Tories or Farage's Brexit Party would be a step too far.
Also maybe its worth trying to woo UKIP voters though I suspect most of those will either stay Tory or go to Brexit Party.
I think it unlikely that many of the 9000 Conservative voters would migrate to the SDP. Though you never know. If John Haywood is not particularly well liked then that may be an avenue for persuasion.
Also maybe its worth trying to woo UKIP voters though I suspect most of those will either stay Tory or go to Brexit Party.
I think it unlikely that many of the 9000 Conservative voters would migrate to the SDP. Though you never know. If John Haywood is not particularly well liked then that may be an avenue for persuasion.
Here’s my pennys worth of campaign statements which is probably useless. But it may trigger you to think up better ones..
Basically it comes down to targeting the 30% leavers (irrespective of party) in the seat and to exploit Labour vulnerabilities.
- Cambridge is a armour plated safe Remain seat. There is no chance for anyone other than Labour. Even the LibDems are almost 13,000 votes behind Labour. So if your are a leaver, by voting for a party other than the Tories you will not be betraying Brexit. But choose your party well. You have a choice between the Torys, a one policy Brexit party or the SDP.
- Your vote matters. It will not change the MP from being a Remainer but it will potentially set the trend for the future – and allows you to register support for leaving the EU without voting Tory.
- The SDP has been around for 40 years. Do you think the Brexit Party will be around after next year?
- The SDP respects democracy. If you voted to remain we respect your decision and we will not vilify it. But democracy is paramount.
- Why not show support for an honest but small party? You vote will not change the MP whatever you vote! But it may have a big effect on the way partys view the issues you are concerned with.
- Do you want to use your vote to support a party now strongly associated with anti-Semitism like the Labour Party?
- Do you want you vote to support a party that said it will ignore the biggest referendum in our history like the LibDems?
- The MP in this constituency will be a Remain supporter. You won’t change that. But you can register your displeasure with the Metropolitan elite. Vote SDP.
- Do you think Corbyn is “safe”? So when they total up the votes at the end, which pile will your be in? Pro Corbyn? Or pro democracy?
- Do you think UK politics is broken? It cannot be fixed overnight by voting SDP. But it is a start. And it uses you vote for good effect when otherwise it would be ignored.
- Do you support scrapping Trident? The Labour and LibDem candidates do! Do you think they are serious about defence? Are you?
Potentially (maybe) 5000 votes up for grabs? But very, very difficult due to Brexit Party and very large Remain vote base. A thousand votes on the day will be ultra impressive.
Jane Robins of the SDP has a mountain to climb.
But she’s a good Gal.
Lets hope she makes an impact.
The SDP: 2019 Basildon & Billericay
As there are people in the SDP who have the guts to stand in the coming General Election (and in no-hope seats at that) I thought the least I could do would be to have a quick review of some of these seats. Just to see what they are up against.
I don't have any magic insight or skill at this. Just a few hours to spare poking about on Google. This may be useful or it may be a waste of time. But whatever, here it is!
I don't have any magic insight or skill at this. Just a few hours to spare poking about on Google. This may be useful or it may be a waste of time. But whatever, here it is!
First on the list of
seats being contested by the SDP is Basildon & Billericay. It is
a stupendously safe Conservative seat.
The SDP candidate is Simon
Breedon.
While he has the typical safe seat mountain to climb, the
seat does have some interesting dynamics mainly brought about by the
fact that unless you vote Conservative (and to be fair most do!) the only other
choice for a Brexit honouring candidate is Simon.
Here is the
candidate list and the General Election 2017 result.
So where’s the
meat and potatoes in this lot?
UKIP (and the Brexit
Party) are gone. The Greens are new and will probably only steal
votes off the Lib Dems and the maybe a few from the Labour party. The
Lib Dem vote probably reflects a group of hard core Remainers who are
unlikely to swap to SDP.
But where did the
UKIP vote go? It appears about two thirds went to the Torys and one
third to Labour. The election turnout in 2017 was 2% up on 2015. In
2015 UKIP came third with 20% of the vote. It appears most of that
from 2015 has gone to the Tories. But not all.
How soft is the
Labour vote? It has actually grown over the last 3 elections and it
would appear that the increased turnout in 2017 gave it a boost.
BUT that was before
all the back-sliding on Brexit or the worries about anti-semitism and
Corbynism.
Certainly the
proportion of UKIP votes that went to Labour in 2017 (maybe 3000) will be looking for a home. Maybe
another 2000 Labour supporters would be readily open to persuasion.
As for the
Conservative vote, maybe some of the UKIP vote that migrated here
will be available. A lot of these people will not be convinced Tories
and never were. Say 1000.
So I reckon there
are up to 3-4000 voters that are potentially up for grabs by the SDP. Realistically a result in the high hundreds will be a victory.
So what would be the
best way of promoting the SDP in this seat? Here’s my seven
arguments.
They may be rubbish but they may just get folk to generate better ones!
They may be rubbish but they may just get folk to generate better ones!
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It is a armour plated safe Tory seat. Emphasise to the electorate that there is no chance for another party to win in this seat other than the Tories. So by voting for partys other than the Tories you will not be betraying Brexit or risk changing the MP for that matter.
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Your vote still matters. It will not change the MP. But it will potentially set the trend for the future. It allows you to register support for leaving the EU without voting Tory.
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Big up the democracy aspect. Why not show support for an honest but small party? Your vote whatever it is will not change the MP! Neither will it imperil Brexit. But it may have a big effect on the way others view the issues you are concerned with.
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Do you want to use your vote to support a party now strongly associated with anti-Semitism like the Labour Party?
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You won’t change the MP whatever you vote but you can register your displeasure with the Metropolitan elite. Especially the anti-democrats that want to cancel Brexit and you can do this without voting Tory. Vote SDP!
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Do you think Corbyn is “safe”? When they total up the votes at the end, which pile will yours be in? Pro Corbyn? Pro Tory? Or pro democracy?
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Do you think UK politics is broken? It cannot be fixed overnight by voting SDP. But it is a start. And it uses you vote for good effect when otherwise it will be ignored and lost.
Good luck to Simon
Breedon, SDP candidate for the 2019 General Election: Basildon &
Billericay
BillotheWisp’s SDP Attack Dog
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In fact I was amazed and pleasantly so.
The SDP is a thoroughly decent party that deserves support. So I thought I’d spend a some time just looking at the potential for these 20 candidates.
The SDP is a thoroughly decent party that deserves support. So I thought I’d spend a some time just looking at the potential for these 20 candidates.
So here are my
thoughts. They may be right. They may be wrong. But I hope you find
them interesting.
Lets deal with what
will be presented as “the down side” first
Will these 20 SDP
candidates potentially split the Leave vote? Could they allow the
LibDems (or any other bunch of juveniles) in through the back door?
The answer to that
is a resounding NO!
All of these seats
are safe seats for the present incumbent. To anyone other than the
existing MP they are no-hopers (that includes the SDP).
In other words
(short of a miracle) there will be no change to the MP in any of
these 20 seats.
You may well ask:
What is the point in fighting in a constituency when you know you are
going to lose?
For the larger
partys that is a moot point. To them concentrating on no-hope safe
seats would be crazy. In safe seats (when held by another party), the
big party’s often just field a paper candidate. A token. Someone
who in all likelihood will be here today and gone tomorrow.
But for a small
party like the SDP seeking to expand its base, this is all about
getting noticed and building a base. No SDP candidate will be gone
tomorrow. Win or lose.
The most important
aspect to this is that these seats are safe seats with majorities for
the current MP in the many thousands.. So any individual voting for
any of the partys standing, in essence knows their vote will not
change the outcome.
Let’s say you are
a traditional Labour supporter in a safe Conservative seat.
You won’t vote
Tory. Especially as they will win the seat anyway.
But maybe you are
committed to Leaving the EU. What can you do?
Do you vote for the
spotty ex-student neo-Marxist paper candidate who is an ardent
Remainer? Someone who abhors your EU preference and probably views
you and your family with disdain?
Are you really going
to register one more vote of support for Jeremy Corbyn? A man who in
all likelihood is somebody you despise?
Look at it the other
way. Say you are in a safe Labour seat.
Again whatever you
vote will make no difference to who is the MP. But should you add
support to the winner when you know they have been (in all
likelihood) architects of the opposition to Brexit?
Are you going to
vote Conservative when Conservative policies (other than Brexit) feel
suspect?
Then what about the
Brexit party?
To me it looks like
the Brexit Party is imploding. It has little apparent policy other
than that implied by its name. To me it looks like they are dying. A
vote for them in these circumstances would truly be a wasted vote.
As for the Lib Dems
– well, surprise, surpise!
Thirty per cent of
Liberal Democrats voted to leave in 2016.
Where are they going
to go?
Will they pile up
votes for the local Corbynista? Vote Tory? Vote for the “new”
LibDems that discarded democracy like a used tissue?
The alternative is a
party that has actually sorted out policy and has a route plan. The
SDP.
They won’t win.
But none of the others will either. But a vote for the SDP will be
another brick in building a truly fair, non elitist working class
movement. A vote that would, if used otherwise, count for nothing.
This will be a hard
month for those standing for the SDP. In reality getting a thousand
votes will be impressive. Saving their deposit (5% of the turnout –
say 2500 votes) will be a victory. Any more than that will be
amazing.
I don’t think that
any SDP MP’s will be elected. Though it would be nice. I suspect
most candidates however hard they work, will just get a few hundred
votes.
But with a bit of
prompting the decent people of this country, whose vote will
otherwise count for little, may be persuaded to start the ball
rolling and register a vote for change.
Maybe not change
today. But change for their children and the future.
What I intend to do
in the next series of posts is promote a number of the constituencies
in which the SDP are standing. If for no other reason than to give
them a tiny bit more publicity and Google link love.
These will be my
unprompted thoughts (no one else’s). I hope they help. If they
don’t then discard them.
Brexit Party & SDP. A Crazy Idea. But….
OK. Laugh this out
of court if you like. It is (as it says on the tin) only a crazy
idea. I’d love your comments (however derogatory) either here or on twitter.
This concerns the
next General Election, which we all hope will not be long in coming.
It also concerns the Social Democratic Party (to whose members it is mainly aimed). So if you are not interested in the SDP or (say) the Brexit Party or even Brexit then stop reading now.
This post particularly
concerns the vulnerability of the Brexit vote to splintering and how
(this is the crazy bit) how to mobilise and maximise the Leave vote in
staunchly Labour areas to ensure Brexit.
It also concerns
(take a deep breath at this point – this is even crazier) also how
we may yet get some SDP MPs.
So, here we go.
The Conservatives
even though they are well ahead in the opinion polls, will struggle
in many traditional Labour seats. However dismal Labours policies
are, many will still vote for them rather than Conservative. The
historic loyalties of honest Northern voters will be played like a
fiddle by Momentum and their pals.
While the Brexit
party may gain traction in these seats it may not be enough. The end
result could well be that (thanks to our crap electoral system –
FPTP) in many traditional Labour seats the Labour candidate sneaks in
with 30-35% of the vote.
We could easily end
up with another minority Leave government or even worse a
minority/majority Remain government. Even though the electoral vote
share for Leave may swamp the Remain vote.
This has happened
before in UK General Elections. See these old posts of mine for dates
and what happened. (Overview Here) (Example 1 - 1929 ) (Example 2 -1951) (Example 3 - 1974)
One of the obvious
tactics that will be used by Labour to attack the Brexit Party will
be that (as viewed by many on the left) they are closet Tories.
Meanwhile many Tory voters in those same seats will see the Brexit
Party as a one trick pony with few policies or direction.
The Brexit Party
will get squeezed by both these ideas. Even though in fairness, it has gone some
way to ensure it has candidates that are other than small Tories, and
it also has policies beyond Brexit.
But voter perception
is King. You can bet your bottom dollar the Brexit Party will get
vilified by both sides.
So how does the SDP
fit into this?
To answer that we
need to look at the structure of the Labour Party. (Yes I told you
this was crazy. Now it is going to get bizarre)
Or rather lets look
at the structure of two separate partys. The Labour Party, and the
Cooperative Party.
Most Labour MPs are
just that. Labour MPs.
But 38 (who also
take the Labour whip) are not. They represent two parties. they are elected on a joint ticket for the Labour & Cooperative Party
Although these days
there is little difference between the two different parties, these
38 MPs in the House of Commons are actually from an alliance (dating
back to 1927) between the Labour Party and the Cooperative Party. (See Here).
Today they form the the fourth largest grouping in the House of Commons. They do NOT stand under the ticket of the Labour
Party but under a joint ticket. On the ballot paper voters put their
X in the box marked “The Labour & Cooperative Party”.
I expect you are way
ahead of me by now. But if not, let me expand.
To ensure success in
Labour Heartland seats, the Brexit Party needs to de-tory-fy itself.
It has done this to the best of its ability by selecting candidates
that are in the main clearly not Torys. But the stigma sticks.
If it
could form a public alliance with a Party with a strong working class
history that Labour voters could easily identify with, it would
greatly aid it electoral chances.
I would suspect too
that many of the chosen Brexit Party candidates, while fully
committed to delivering Brexit, are still somewhat unhappy about
being on exactly the same ticket as Nigel Farage and would like some
distance.
So for the Brexit
Party it would make a lot of sense to stand candidates as “Brexit
and SDP Party”. Just as some Labour candidates stand as “Labour &
Cooperative Party”
I’d put money on
it that Labour voters would much rather put an X in a box labelled
Brexit & SDP Party than one marked Brexit Party. (let alone one
marked Conservative)
It would also make a
lot of sense for the SDP to adopt some of the finer centre-left
candidates in the Brexit party as dual party members, and maybe
negotiate to replace one or two of the weaker ones with real quality
SDP candidates like Patrick O’Flynn.
Both partys would
gain.
As Robert E.
Heinlein once said
“Never appeal
to a man's 'better nature.' He may not have one. Invoking his
self-interest gives you more leverage.”
It is in the self
interest of the Brexit Party to have an alliance. It is also in the
self interest of the SDP to have an alliance.
It is in neither
partys interest to squabble or ignore each other.
(Right. I’ll
restart taking the medication now. Thank you)
Parish Councils are Dying. So What?
This is the last in
a series I’ve posted on how a new party could gain and maintain
power at the lowest level of UK democracy. That is at the Parish Council/
Town Council level.
A committed party could do this literally in a few months. In many cases without even standing for election. (See this post)
But then you have got to ask: Why would any party want to do this?
A committed party could do this literally in a few months. In many cases without even standing for election. (See this post)
But then you have got to ask: Why would any party want to do this?
Why bother?
It would involve a great deal of effort. For what gain?
Parish/Town councils all over the country are dying. So what would be the point in gaining power in failing councils?
Parish/Town councils all over the country are dying. So what would be the point in gaining power in failing councils?
If a party placed candidates to fill the rows of empty Councillor seats and then walked away without providing further support then little would be achieved. In fact in all likelihood it would be an utter and complete
waste of time.
Nothing would change. There may be a brief blip on the heart monitor for these councils but they will not be resuscitated. The death spiral will continue.
So how can local councillors make headway against the political apathy that engulfs their locality?
The only way out of this is to target issues affecting the locality and to do this vocally. Get your councillors to make a lot of noise about local issues. Let people know you're party is standing up for them. Especially on issues they are concerned about.
The only way out of this is to target issues affecting the locality and to do this vocally. Get your councillors to make a lot of noise about local issues. Let people know you're party is standing up for them. Especially on issues they are concerned about.
Yes. I know.
That's stating the bleeding obvious.
That's stating the bleeding obvious.
But I’d bet that
most issues affecting one Parish Council are almost identical to
those affecting its neighbour or even a similar sized Parish council
300 miles away.
Few problems at the Parish Council level will be
unique.
The issues struggled
with by Council A may well have been solved by Council B. Often many
years before.
But nobody knows. Like the Parish Councils themselves, all the little victories are anonymous. Re-inventing the wheel is the norm, while leveraging progress made elsewhere is rare.
I mooted an idea that each councillor could have the support of a number of lay-supporters and even other non-local councillors. (Here)
I mooted an idea that each councillor could have the support of a number of lay-supporters and even other non-local councillors. (Here)
Now imagine a forward looking party that links all these motivated and engaged individuals into a forum. A forum where problems can be posted specifically to find out if similar problems have been solved elsewhere.
Instead of one councillor and 2 or 3 lay-supporters grappling with a problem suddenly you have a central army
of 100’s of people.
An army ready to address a single Councillor's otherwise intractable problems and
find out how they have already been fixed elsewhere.
In essence you use
your small national political party as a force multiplier for your otherwise
isolated and under-informed Parish Councillor.
Couple that with
courses for councillors in using social media, film editing and
generally making a lot of fuss and you have a seriously effective and
popular Parish Council.
Then you have a
route forward. You will gain popularity and support from the community.
You have a strong political base to build on.
And its all stamped with the initials of your party.
Realistically no new party is going to miraculously get an opportunity to break into the higher levels of UK politic unless it builds a solid political base first.
I firmly believe Parish/Town councils offer that opportunity.
I hope you agree.
Heres the full set of posts on this topic:
The Social Democratic Party - Where Now?
The SDP and the Brexit Party
Local Politics and the Low Hanging Fruit
Arming the Parish Councillors
Parish Councillors: Party Affiliated or Independent?
Parish Councils are Dying. So What? (this post)
I firmly believe Parish/Town councils offer that opportunity.
I hope you agree.
Heres the full set of posts on this topic:
The Social Democratic Party - Where Now?
The SDP and the Brexit Party
Local Politics and the Low Hanging Fruit
Arming the Parish Councillors
Parish Councillors: Party Affiliated or Independent?
Parish Councils are Dying. So What? (this post)
Parish Councillors: Party Affiliated? Or Independent?
Independent
councillors make up the bulk of Parish/Town Councils. At the local level, people like local independents not party apparatchiks.
In my earlier posts (Start Here) I have discussed how a small party could
gain significant influence at the Parish Council level right across
the country without even having to win a vote. I've often used the Social Democratic Party as an example.
What should such a
small party brand their councillors as?
Do they put them up on
a party ticket?
Sad as it may seem, many view small party's with suspicion. Meanwhile standing on a ticket for larger party (and taking on the Parliamentary baggage that
comes with it) would in all likelihood be even worse.
At the Parish/Town council level, a candidate that describes themselves as "Independent" is viewed positively.
At the Parish/Town council level, a candidate that describes themselves as "Independent" is viewed positively.
But there is no rule or law against standing as an independent candidate while then qualifying your independent status.
In fact many councillors qualify their independent status already.
Today you often get candidates stating they are Independent but representing a residents association, or independent but "standing up" for this or that local campaign.
So there would to be no reason that a candidate could not stand as:
“Independent – affiliated to this or that Party.”
In fact many councillors qualify their independent status already.
Today you often get candidates stating they are Independent but representing a residents association, or independent but "standing up" for this or that local campaign.
So there would to be no reason that a candidate could not stand as:
“Independent – affiliated to this or that Party.”
But so what?
They ARE independent. Just using the facilities on offer from a party they align with to service their job. That does not compromise their independence but clearly gives an strong idea where they are coming from politically.
This has another
by-product.
Many (most?) of the country's Parish Councillors who stand as independents would love to benefit from a party support base. But they would not want to compromise their independent status by standing on a party ticket.
Wouldn’t be nice
to be able to offer them some support from the party support base as
well? (See last post) Many would jump at it and as a result would probably become valuable supporters.
No strings. No towing the party line. But if your views mostly align with the party in question you get the support.
Just change “Independent” to “Independent – affiliated to this or that party”.
Just change “Independent” to “Independent – affiliated to this or that party”.
But it all hinges on their being a proper structured support for Parish councillors from the party wishing to implement this.
Otherwise it is a waste of time.
Otherwise it is a waste of time.
Here's the full set of posts on this topic:
The Social Democratic Party - Where Now?
The SDP and the Brexit Party
Local Politics and the Low Hanging Fruit
Arming the Parish Councillors
Parish Councillors: Party Aligned? or Independent? (this post)
Parish Councils Are Dying: So What?
The Social Democratic Party - Where Now?
The SDP and the Brexit Party
Local Politics and the Low Hanging Fruit
Arming the Parish Councillors
Parish Councillors: Party Aligned? or Independent? (this post)
Parish Councils Are Dying: So What?
Arming the Parish Councillors
In my last post ( HERE ) I hope I proved that any political party with the drive to improve the failing bottom tier of UK local government could gain a significant representation in Parish/Town councils across the country without really trying.
In most cases their candidates would not even have to go though the process of being elected. (Yes. Things are that bad!)
But what happens then?
If a party wanted their councillors to do more than simply “get by” they would need to arm their councillors with some form of structured support. Support that is sadly lacking today. Irrespective of what party (or none) you are in.
Yet people join political partys to make a difference. So I think it would be reasonable to assume that the average party member is pre-disposed to helping out.
While many (the majority - in any party) would not wish to become actively involved to the extent of (say) actually being a Parish Councillor, they may well be willing to provide support to those that are.
Just as MPs have "staffers" running their office, maybe there should be mini "staffers" for Parish Councillors. People providing a couple of hours a week to letter-write/research and read through reports.
This would significantly reduce the Parish Councillors work load. More importantly it would give the Councillor a base of support to whom they can turn to for ideas, advice or simply a chat.
This support would itself make the prospect of becoming a councillor less daunting and increase supply of candidates.
This support would itself make the prospect of becoming a councillor less daunting and increase supply of candidates.
After a while as the lay-supporters also gain experience they may themselves feel more confident and put themselves forward as councillors.
However, this would entail considerable commitment and organisation from any party that tried to implement it. If the party in question sees only Parliamentary success as important then this is a waste of time.
Sadly I don't think there is ANY political party around today that has either the will-power or the inclination to rescue this vital bottom tier of UK government.
Everyone is focused on the top of the tree while the bottom rots away.
Next: It's Parish Councils and political branding. Also whether a party ticket can sometimes be a hindrance rather than a help.
Heres the full set of posts on this topic:
The Social Democratic Party - Where Now?
The SDP and the Brexit Party
Local Politics and the Low Hanging Fruit
Arming the Parish Councillors (this)
Parish Councillors: Party Aligned? or Independent?
Parish Councils are Dying: So What?
The Social Democratic Party - Where Now?
The SDP and the Brexit Party
Local Politics and the Low Hanging Fruit
Arming the Parish Councillors (this)
Parish Councillors: Party Aligned? or Independent?
Parish Councils are Dying: So What?
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