I know some of our European friends are quite shocked to find out that we will be probably voting to leave the Eu. So I thought I'd write them an explanation why I'll vote Leave.
My Dear European Friends,
So, how has it come to this?
In 1973 I voted to join the Common Market. I was (and still am) a passionate supporter of a European Free trade area. I love Europe and I love my European friends and work colleagues.
So it is with sadness that I have to tell you that on the 23rd July I will be voting to leave the Eu. This is not a snap decision. I have agonized over this decision for a long time.
I feel I owe you an explanation, so here's why.
The most precious gift possessed by the peoples of Europe is Democracy. It is almost trite to remind you that millions died from all around the world to preserve it and promote it. Now, at last, all European countries are (to a greater or lesser extent) democratic.
Perhaps though, we should not forget that many of the countries in the Eu were, until quite recently, dictatorships. Over half of the countries in the Eu had totalitarian governments within the last 70 years. Maybe that explains the lack of rigour in your demands for democracy within the Eu itself.
That to me, is a very big problem.
Above all else, for me, the lack of democratic accountablity with the Eu is the reason to leave.
Tony Benn was hardly my favorite politician, but he beautifully summarised it as follows:
He said:
"...one can ask five questions:"
1. "What power do you have? "
2. "Where did you get it?"
3. "In whose interests do you exercise it?"
4. "To whom are you accountable?"
5. "And, how can we get rid of you?"
He then pointed out that
"Anyone who cannot answer the last of those questions does not live in a democratic system."
The Eu legislature is un-elected and unaccountable. Only the un-elected commission can propose legislation.
True - there is a fig-leaf of democracy in an elected Eu Parliament. But this is an emasculated talking shop. It cannot instigate legislation, which has to be the prime reason for any parliament. The Eu Parliaments powers are for all intents and purposes, little more than the UK House of Lords.
This is wrong.
But worse than this, is the way the Eu bends democracy to breaking point in order to get its way.
Several times treaties have been legitimately and democratically rejected by national referenda. On each occasion the Eu has instigated a fear campaign and forced another referendum within the country concerned to reverse the decision. (See earlier Post here)
Even worse they can (and have) deliberately overthrown democratic decisions. The worst and most flagrant example of this involved the defunct Eu Constitution and the subsequent affront to democracy called the Treaty of Lisbon.
I'll just remind you how this shocking anti-democratic coup took place.
The original Eu Constitution was vetoed by two referenda in France and Holland. Further referenda vetoes were certain.
Consequently the Eu Constitution (per-se) was dropped.
A victory for democracy?
Hardly.
By sleight of hand the Commission resurrected the constitution.
They replaced it with the (deliberately) unintelligible Treaty of Lisbon. It is unintelligible because it is in essence a set of line by line amendments to existing treaties. They are amended to reflect the content of the vetoed constitution.
As an amendment to existing treaties, the Treaty of Lisbon did not require countries to exercise a referendum. Only Ireland held a referendum. They vetoed the Treaty of Lisbon. Undeterred, the Eu Oligarchy forced a re-run. After a scare campaign the result was reversed.
Democracy was defeated. The ruling Eu Oligarchy ignored the true wishes of the peoples of the Eu. They imposed their Eu Constitution.
Such actions demonstrate a total contempt for democratic rule.
So I simply cannot stand by while an already remote, elitist Oligarchy turns into a dictatorship. My country, my children and my grandchildren deserve better than that.
There is sadly far, far more.
The appalling treatment of African nations,
Debilitating uncontrolled immigration and emigration.
The advanced planning for an Eu "army"
The shocking underhand and undemocratic actions taken in the Ukraine.
Then there is the stinking cesspit of Eu wide cronyism and corruption.
For 40 years all political partys in the UK have tried to deal with these issues. But the unelected self serving Eu elite studiously stone-wall reform and ignore requests to change.
We can do no more.
So there it is my friends. We have to say good-bye.
Maybe the shock of the UK leaving the Eu will get things get sorted out. If the corrupt Eu Oligarchy is brought to heel maybe we can again have a closer relationship. But not with things as they are.
I do hope we can remain friends.
Love
Billothewisp
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The Eu: What Happens When a Veto is Used
Mr Cameron keeps dripping on about how we have a "Cast Iron Veto" on Turkey joining the the Eu. So I thought I would have a look back through recent history to see how this veto has been used before in the Eu and what happened when is was used.
I have found six occasions where vetoes were issued by National governemnts. On each occasion the veto was either worked round, ignored, or defeated.
Here's the story of six "Cast Iron Vetoes".
In theory each Eu member state has a veto over treaty change. Sometimes due to the type of treaty change, ratification will invoke the necessity of a referendum. Most of the time though (and not just in the UK) the change only requires Parliamentary approval. As I described recently (post is on this link) this parliamentary approval itself can, and has been in the past, subverted. This subversion avoids the necessity for a formal division and a recorded vote is avoided.
But this post is about six times where member states of the Eu have invoked the "Cast Iron Veto" and what subsequently happened.
Cast Iron Veto Number One 1993 Denmark. Treaty of Maastricht
Denmark held a referendum to approve the Treat of Maastricht. On a very large turn out the people rejected the treaty. So the Danes were the first to issue a "Cast Iron Veto".
The Eu was outraged. The Danish government was ordered to fix the problem.
Consequently the Danish government came up with four opt-outs that they hoped would swing the vote. Less than a year after the first, another referendum was forced through. A massive ugly propaganda campaign swung the vote. The second referendum overturned the "Cast Iron Veto".
An final twist to this is that since then much effort has been expended by the Eu in trying to water down and remove the opt-outs obtained by Denmark. The Danes have been forced to hold two further referenda (2000 & 2015) to try and remove their opt-outs. The opt-outs remain. Like us, the Danes are getting wise to the mechinations of the Eu.
Cast Iron Veto Number 2 Ireland. Treaty of Nice 2001
In 2001 the Irish voted down the Treaty of Nice. The second "Cast Iron Veto" had been made. After the subsequent fudge to Irish concerns over the threat to their neutrality (the Seville Declaration) and the ritual massive propaganda campaign centering on scaring the electorate, a second referendum was held. The result was overturned.
Cast Iron Veto Number 3 France. Treaty Establishing a Constitution for Europe 2005
The French looked at the Constitution, saw what it would do to their sovereignty and rejected it with a healthy majority. The French "Cast Iron Veto" had been served.
Wikipedia: Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe Link
Cast Iron Veto Number 4 Netherlands. Treaty Establishing a Constitution for Europe 2005
The Dutch looked at the Constitution, liked it even less than the French and voted it down. The Dutch Cast Iron Veto had been served.
With two countries having rejected the new Constitution and with the UK lined up to deliver a third. The Constitution treaty was dropped.
So was this double veto a victory for the "Cast Iron Veto"?
Hardly.
The Eu had another plan. That plan was the Treaty of Lisbon.
(Wikipedia - Treaty of Lisbon Link)
The Treaty of Lisbon's first killer characteristic was that it was an amendment to existing treaties (not a new one like the Constitution). This was a stroke of malign genius. It meant that governmental approval avoided referenda. It was only, after all, an amendment.
Cleverly The Lisbon Treaty amended existing treaties so that at the end of the day they were to all intents and purposes the same as the defunct constitution.
The Lisbon Treaty was (and is) unintelligible. That of course was its second killer characteristic.
Valéry Giscard d’Estaing the former French President put it as so:
"The Treaty of Lisbon is the same as the rejected constitution. Only the format has been changed to avoid referendums"
(See Telegraph Report LInk Here)
d'Estang is also quoted as so
"Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals that we dare not present to them directly ... All the earlier proposals will be in the new text, but will be hidden and disguised in some way ... What was [ already] difficult to understand will become utterly incomprehensible, but the substance has been retained."
(Irish Times Report Here)
Karel de Gucht, Belgium's foreign minister, said:
"The aim of this treaty is to be unreadable ... The constitution aimed to be clear, whereas this treaty had to be unclear... It is a success."
(Irish Times Report Link Here)
The "Cast Iron Vetoes" of France and Holland were circumvented.
As an amendment the Treat of Lisbon was pushed through National Parliaments without referenda. The promised UK referendum on the Constitution was now declared unnecessary and quietly abandoned.
But there was one exception. Ireland (again!).
In Ireland somebody, incensed by the proposed change to the Irish constitution without a referendum, took the government to court. He won. This forced the Irish government to hold a referendum on the unintelligible Treaty.
Gloriously the Irish Government (and the Eu ) lost the ensuing referendum.
Cast Iron Veto Number 5 Ireland. Treaty Of Lisbon.
The Eu were apoplectic with rage. It was insinuated that Ireland would be thrown out of the Eu. Various blackmail threats were issued concerning Irish neutrality and abortion laws.
(See Daily Mail Report Link Here)
Eventually the Irish government caved in.
They ran a "study" of Irish voting reasons. They came to the grand conclusion that the electorate had rejected the Treaty of Lisbon because of : "lack of knowledge/information/ understanding".
To sweeten the pill the Eu threw in a few "promises".
(See Wikipedia Ratification Link Here)
A new referendum was called. This time the Eu spared no quarter in their propaganda onslaught. Like in Denmark, the intimidated electorate swung the other way and the "Cast Iron Veto" was overturned.
Cast Iron Veto Number 6 UK. Euro Accord 2011
Then we come to David Camerons 2011 veto of an amendment to the Treaty of Lisbon.
The Eurocrats wanted to amend the Treaty of Lisbon (remember - the deliberately unintelligible document that is an amendment itself). The amendment was Euro centric and paid little or no thought to the affects it would have on the viability of the UK financial services industry. Cameron begged for an opt-out and was refused.
Amid huge abuse from the Eu, with threats of expulsion coming from both Germany and France, Cameron was forced to use the veto by his back benchers. It was either that or it was bye-bye Conservative Party and Coalition Government.
(See Guardian Story Link Here)
After the ritual Eu tantrums and hysterical threats, the Eu simply ignored Cameron's veto. They passed the legislation without Camerons signature. The only difference was that now instead of being called a Treaty it was called an Accord.
So, far from being a "Cast Iron Veto" on Eu policy, all it achieved (at best) was an unrecognised and undocumented UK opt-out (which I suppose is at least something). True to form then EU had circumvented the "Cast Iron Veto" again.
And that is where we are today. The concept of a "Cast Iron Veto" as eulogised by Cameron is an illusion. The timid will not use it. The devious avoid it. If it does get invoked, it is circumvented, ignored or defeated.
It is purely Smoke and Mirrors.
Nothing more.
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